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Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:07 am
by grune
Just wondering what everyone else's thoughts are on the latest Onell design blog entry. Is Argen dead or has he just been defeated??? Does this mean we wont be seeing him in anymore drops??

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:11 am
by ThatGuyNamedJoe
grune wrote:Just wondering what everyone else's thoughts are on the latest Onell design blog entry. Is Argen dead or has he just been defeated??? Does this mean we wont be seeing him in anymore drops??


If he is dead, we probably won't be seeing the named character Argen in drops. But we will likely still be seeing the buildman. Argen is just a buildman with special tampographs and an axis joint set.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:01 am
by Lazzy Lizard
Argen is Far More than just another buildman w/ tampo's.

He was the main reason I started collecting Glyos on after reading his story in the archives and the continued stories with him in it.

If he is truly gone, we should have a farewell for him as he well deserves. :arg1: > :arg10:

=)

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:36 am
by ThatGuyNamedJoe
Lazzy Lizard wrote:Argen is Far More than just another buildman w/ tampo's.

He was the main reason I started collecting Glyos on after reading his story in the archives and the continued stories with him in it.

If he is truly gone, we should have a farewell for him as he well deserves. :arg1: > :arg10:

=)


They said that we might not be getting him anympre, which I assume they meant toys of him. As a toy, he is not much more than a normal buildman.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:35 am
by akum6n
Who said?

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:49 pm
by Mutt12
If Argen bit it, it might be the end of that character, but not the end of the Buildman. Storyline-wise, I think that Enyriun would be a worthy successor to take over the Gendrone Rebellion.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:13 pm
by Undrave
Maybe that battle is chronologically BEFORE the appearance of Electro Revenant Argen and even Dreadvalken Phantom Argen?

Maybe Argen will keep on in a non-corporeal form while Enyrium takes over the Gendrone?

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:18 pm
by josh
Undrave wrote:Maybe that battle is chronologically BEFORE the appearance of Electro Revenant Argen and even Dreadvalken Phantom Argen?

Maybe Argen will keep on in a non-corporeal form while Enyrium takes over the Gendrone?

The seeds of the future lie buried in the past! :map-arg17:

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:27 pm
by ThatGuyNamedJoe
Undrave wrote:Maybe that battle is chronologically BEFORE the appearance of Electro Revenant Argen and even Dreadvalken Phantom Argen?

Maybe Argen will keep on in a non-corporeal form while Enyrium takes over the Gendrone?


Ok, I like the idea of an Argen ghost. I think it would be cool if he then possessed a new kind of buildman that was a brand-new model with completely different kinds of weapons and armor. :tb-arg18:

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:40 pm
by akum6n
Perhaps Argen made a backup of himself beforehand. I mean, after he got blown away by the Syclodoc, you'd think he would, right?

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:32 pm
by TJOmega
I doubt it's the last of Argen, but for now it's time he got a break. The build has been in most drops in the last couple years, we've seen a lot of the other molds freshened up with new paint masks (Super Cray, Sarvos, Noboto) or new components (Armorvor, Pheyden twice) in that time. I expect we'll get releases as Axis Armored Buildmen so you can still have the Argen parts if you want them until it's time for him to make a comeback.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:48 pm
by ThatGuyNamedJoe
TJOmega wrote:I doubt it's the last of Argen, but for now it's time he got a break. The build has been in most drops in the last couple years, we've seen a lot of the other molds freshened up with new paint masks (Super Cray, Sarvos, Noboto) or new components (Armorvor, Pheyden twice) in that time. I expect we'll get releases as Axis Armored Buildmen so you can still have the Argen parts if you want them until it's time for him to make a comeback.


I think it's more likely that the standard "Argen" axis build :argen10: will no longer be sold (at least for a while) and will instead be sold in different configurations or once again as separate figures.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:01 pm
by NoPaintRequired
We don't quite know the abilities of the Villser, hell, they needed to destroy any chance of life on a planet. What we do know is that it was the greatest threat to all of Glyos and that the Buildman project was to emulate Villser.

What do we know of Argen? He killed Govurom, was awakened by Pheyden/Hades, sought out to free the Buildmen and give them free thought, was told never to trust the Glyans by the Renagades, was chased down by Callgrim, fought with Glyan Kane, grew an army, went to the Council of Traveler and teamed up with Phanost, and drifted with Phanost for a bit where Argen learned to mimic life forms. After that he mutated into Argen X and fought with Hades.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:26 pm
by LV!
GOVUROM CANNOT BE DESTROYED

Besides, the way I remember it, Govy killed Argen and then walked off into the sunset. ;)

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:32 pm
by NoPaintRequired
LV! wrote:GOVUROM CANNOT BE DESTROYED

Besides, the way I remember it, Govy killed Argen and then walked off into the sunset. ;)


Looks like another split in time and alternate yet canon universe. I hope someone remembered to bring ice to this party.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:11 pm
by Glyologist
I feel the same as Lazzy. Argen was the character that got me into glyos, the first posts I ever saw on the blog were him on his explorations in the beginning of 2014 and he was the first onell figure I ever got. I hope he was just defeated and not dead. If he is dead may he be remembered for who he once was :arg1: not for who he became. :tb-arg18:

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:01 am
by Mutt12
I have to say he's dead. With how dangerous he has gotten, I don't think Hades would take any chance in leaving him alive. I could see his programming being backed up somewhere and uploading into a new body, causing him to come back as some sort of rogue revnant.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:43 pm
by mechanicoid
Argen carries the Villser virus, so I'm assuming he's far from done. Besides, letting Hades think he's dead (or severely damaged), gives Argen the ability to move freely with no one looking for him.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:39 pm
by VENENOR
Considering the lingering Villser influence he may take on a completely new form. A mutation, so to speak. We've already seen that with the introduction of the new head. I say this as pure speculation with no inside knowledge whatsoever but what if there's a transition to that new form. Argen has taken various enhanced forms throughout the years and peaked in overall parts with the Rigkiller. I'd say its completely possible to see a mutated Argen with four or six axis joints or four axis joints and two swings. Many many options to take him using existing parts before an all-new form is introduced if that's the direction.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:57 pm
by Undrave
So what's a good build for Argen and a regular Buildman combined? This is the best I could do on my own...

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Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:09 pm
by NoPaintRequired
Some of the old Passcode games feature buildmen combinations in all sorts of forms.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:21 pm
by ThatGuyNamedJoe
NoPaintRequired wrote:
LV! wrote:GOVUROM CANNOT BE DESTROYED

Besides, the way I remember it, Govy killed Argen and then walked off into the sunset. ;)


Looks like another split in time and alternate yet canon universe. I hope someone remembered to bring ice to this party.


You'd think that stuff like plot holes wouldn't happen that much in a story that is pretty rarely expanded...

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:04 am
by kranix
Bravecarrot22 wrote:You'd think that stuff like plot holes wouldn't happen that much in a story that is pretty rarely expanded...


Well, there is precedent for a "multiverse"-style element in the canon, so think of them less as "plot holes" and more as branches of alternate realities.

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:23 am
by ThatGuyNamedJoe
kranix wrote:
Bravecarrot22 wrote:You'd think that stuff like plot holes wouldn't happen that much in a story that is pretty rarely expanded...


Well, there is precedent for a "multiverse"-style element in the canon, so think of them less as "plot holes" and more as branches of alternate realities.


It's unfortunate that there has never been much expansion on that. I'd completely agree with the alternate reality thing if it was clearer and just made more sense. :tb-phey:

Re: Argen death!!??

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:02 pm
by akum6n
Depending on how you look at, most of the primary 'canon' is actually an alternate reality...